(dramatic piano music) – Hey, everybody, today I have a wonderful and very special guest. Kailash Satyarthi is
here to talk to us today about his documentary, The Price Of Free, but I would just love for you first to kind of let my audience know who you are and how you got started with what you do, because if you didn’t know,
his whole life work, I guess, life’s work and goal is
to end child slavery, meaning every child has
the right to a childhood. How did that get started for you? – Well, if people ask me who you are, normally I say that I am a child because I don’t want to let
the child inside me die, because for me childhood means purity, transparency, simplicity, a quest for more learning
new things, forgiveness. So, it is not an age, it’s always a virtue or a value which
everybody should keep as childhood for the whole of their life.
– Totally. – So, this is me. – I love it.
– It will be to talk to me as you’re talking to a child.
– Okay. – And then, I recall the very first
incident of my life that had the first spark. I was five, five and a half
years old and went to school. It was the first day. I found a child of my age sitting outside the
school, he was a cobbler. And then, we were entering
the school, me and my friends, he was looking at us on our feet, and I could not understand
why he’s looking there because I’d not met a cobbler boy before. So, I went inside the school
and asked to my teacher that, sir, why a child is sitting outside and not with the rest
of us in the classroom because we were told since our senses that everybody has to go to school. And my teacher told, okay,
as this is your first day, calm down, make new friends. This is very common, he said, poor children have to
help the family and work. I was not convinced. So, when I went back
home, I asked my parents and my friends. Everybody had a similar answer. And I was watching this boy every morning while going to school and
coming back from the school, sitting under the open sun, and no shade, and since we were all having new shoes, so there was no job to give to him. And I could see in his eyes the emptiness, the pain. And one day I gathered
my courage and asked him and his father, who was also
sitting alongside and working, the boy was shy, but the father answered, Sir, we have never thought about it because my grandfather, my father and I started going to school
since our childhood, and so has my son, he said. And then he took a pause, and then he looked at
me and said that, Sir, you don’t know that you
are born to go to school and we are born to work. What was that, I could
not really understand it, but I was angry, that why
some children are born to work at the cost of their childhood,
which is most precious, and freedom, this is the divine gift. How can you allow this to happen? So, I started thinking like that and that had given me a
different perspective of life. One is that what my teacher,
my mother, my father, my friends, elderly people
say may not be true, may not be righteous,
may not be justified. – Just ’cause it’s what’s happening. – It is happening for ages, for centuries, because of a class system,
because of apartheid, because of this and that. I completely refused to accept it. And this perspective of life gave me to question the wrongs
around me, and I started helping other children by
way of collecting old books or some fee, money for their
fees, because it was expensive and many children dropped
out from the schools. So, I started doing like that when I was 13, 14, 11, 12 years old,
so I did it like that. – Yeah, you were such a thoughtful child. – So, anyway, but it gave me drive. Every day, when I was able
to help a child who was needy and who could go to school
and could get books, it gave me immense pleasure. Then my whole thinking and my resolve to work for
the cause of children got more and more strengthened, but my parents wanted
to make me an engineer. I was good at mathematics and science, so they thought that, oh, that’s good, and I got a scholarship, of course. But, of course, that was
very expensive to study. I was graduated from there and then I taught in the university, but I always believed that
if you follow your heart, then the mind will follow you. And if your mind will follow you, then the world will follow you, but the most important thing
is to ignite that compassion in the heart and follow that heart. I did it, I gave up my career. That was tough. – I was going to say, were you scared, ’cause even myself, like,
from what I do online, I quit my full-time job
and I was terrified. – Oh, yeah.
– And I worked so hard, went to school for so
long, my mom was like, what’re you doing?
– Yeah, so, I tell you that you join me.
(laughter) (laughing) Then you will, you will not be terrified with that.
– And I don’t regret it, but it’s scary at the time.
– Yeah, it’s scary. Yeah, actually, it is
there, but in my case, since I had a very clear mission of life, I wanted to do something
good for these children, but the conventional wisdom about it was that you open a school for poor children or an orphanage for needy children, or help them with food or
shelter, or something like that. But as an electrical engineer,
or a system engineer, I could see beyond that,
that it was not simply the conventional charity which can help in solving the problem. The problem lies deep-rooted, it has a systemic cause, and we have to understand it, analyze it, and then respond to it. So, that was tough. And the most difficult
thing was that child slavery was not a subject which was talked about, or nobody talked about it.
– Yeah. Even when I brought it
up with my own mother and I said, I’m doing this thing, I really want to raise awareness and there’s this amazing
documentary coming on, she’s like, how can you watch
that, that’s so terrible. And I’m like, how can you not? – Yeah.
– You know, and I think that a lot of people, when things
are difficult or uncomfortable, want to turn away.
– Yeah. – But I think it’s really
important that we turn towards it. – Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, because if you turn your
eyes with a problem, the problem will haunt you. – And it doesn’t go away, right? Like, look, ignorance doesn’t, it didn’t get itself there.
– Ignorance perpetuates and multiplies the problem. So, we always say that
let us walk from ignorance to knowledge about the
things, and then see that how it can affect us also.
– Yes. – Because if somebody thinks that, oh, this is the problem of India, this is the problem of poor
countries, they are not true. – No, it said Los Angeles. – It’s Los Angeles, where we are sitting now.
– And I thought, I thought undocumented children, down in the garment district.
– Absolutely. – I 100% believe that, like, that’s happening and it’s important that people know.
– And in the tobacco farms, we will find children
working at an early age, and it’s very dangerous for
them, it is hazardous work, but it is not outlawed in the US. – That blew my mind too,
of all the countries to not sign on.
– Yeah. – So, to kind of move along in your story, when you started actually
doing the advocacy work, how did that begin for you? – Well, so, I …
– So, you quit your job. – So, I quit the job just to find my path because there was no other example, there was no other person who
was working on this issue, and even in the world, not only in India. – Yeah. – Google was not yet invented to find, (laughing) but even then,
through my own sources, yeah, you can remember that time. So, it was very difficult, so, how to go, what to do, and I didn’t want to, as I said, do some conventional charity work. I thought that let us educate
the people about this issue, that it is the denial of human dignity. It is denial of freedom,
which is unacceptable in any civilized world, cultured society. So, I thought that let us talk about it. I started talking, meeting. It was not enough, so I decided
to write in the newspapers. And, so, a newspaper published some articles, some newspapers, but later on they said it is saturated, this
subject cannot be repeated again and again.
– Oh, like we’ve done all we can do.
– So, yeah, yeah, we have done it already. So, I thought that, okay, so, let us publish my own magazine. So, I started a fortnightly named The Struggle Shall Continue. This was, again, an experiment in media that this was totally
devoted for the issues of children and women
who were most deprived, most exploited, and also, I wanted to
bring the success stories because I don’t believe in despair. If hope will eventually prevail,
then why you should live with despair and hopelessness?
– Yeah. – Yeah, if the truth will
prevail, then why live in untruth? (Kailash laughs)
– True, true. – Or justice will prevail one day, so, why you should be caught
with injustices and so on, and frightened of it, I’m not frightened with injustices. I fight with it.
– Keep fighting for it. – Yeah, I keep fighting
because eventually justice, eventually justice will prevail. So, I thought that, okay, the people who are trying
to change this situation, they should also be highlighted, they should also be shown like heroes. So, I started finding those people. So, my wife, Sumedha, who
was a journalist before, she was a big help, and
we started a magazine called The Struggle Shall Continue. So, one day, that was in March 1981, a desperate father knocked on my door whose daughter was about to be sold to a brothel. She was 15 years old, and this guy, his name was
Vassal Khan, he was a Muslim guy, and he was lying on my feet and crying that, Sir, please save my daughter. And when I started writing his story, I found that 17 years ago,
he and his newly married wife were lured away from his
village on the false promise that they would earn good
money at the brick kiln, but during those years,
they were not paid anything. They were not allowed to leave the place. They were given only some food
to eat and live like animals, and all the children were
born and grew up there, including this girl, Sabbo, 15 years. And one day, the mother found
that some brothel agent came and they were touching her
body parts and just negotiating the price, they wanted to buy her, and luckily that day, the
deal was not materialized. And this father, in desperation, jumped into a brick loaded truck
in the middle of the night, without knowing where
to go and what to do, to seek some help. And he …
– So, he had to kind of run away, like break out.
– He ran away, one of them, this father.
– To find you. – Find someone, he didn’t know
me, he didn’t know anyone, but he just wanted to find some way out. So, the truck reached a place where he met a subscriber of my magazine, and he suggested that, go to
Kailash and he will help you, he will write your story so that perhaps the government agencies can help. So, he came only with this expectation that I’m going to write his story, but when I was writing, I thought that if she was my sister, what would I do? I was 26, 27 years old. What if she was my
daughter, what would I do? My son was one years old at that time. So, I decided to go and rescue that girl because that connects
with my life mission. I wanted to do something which is really action.
– Take action, yeah. – So, I told that I’ll go. We went there, we were beaten
up, we had to come back home. That was …
– Yeah, were you scared going? – Not really, I was very,
very confident that, first of all, I believe in
freedom, I believe in liberty that was so deep-rooted in my heart, that liberty is born free
and that is the gift of God, so, and the Constitution of India and the international
treaties and laws were there. So, I knew that I could be attacked or anything could happen, and it was difficult because
we didn’t have money that time. So, I requested Sumedha,
my wife, to give her wedding ornament so that we
can hire a truck or a car, all the logistic preparations not to take back this
family but there were 30, more than 30 people, as this man told me. So, somehow we were able to reach
there, but Vassal was caught. We were thrown away and beaten,
and we had to come back barefooted, empty hands. But I never, never live an empty heart, I could remain with empty hands, because I believe that the
solution of every problem lies in the problem itself.
– Yeah. – We have to wait, we have to work hard, we have to find some strategy.
– Yeah. – It’s self-belief, but also trust in the society. So, we came back and I
reached to the court. So, with the help of the court,
we have been able to rescue not only this beautiful sister of mine, 15-year-old Sabbo, but 36 children, women and men.
– Wow. – And that was the moment of truth for me, when these children were coming back and jumping on the streets. – And the joy in their faces.
– As they’re free, the joy on their face was something
like a glimpse of God, and the mothers were
hugging them, kissing them. The tears were rolling
down on their cheeks because they could not believe that their children would
ever be freed like that. – Yeah, probably thought they might never see them again.
– Yeah, they have never, yeah. So, they were so happy,
and that joy of freedom was some sort of glimpse of God for me, and since then, I’ve never looked back. – Yeah.
– So, thanks to this father and this girl who have shown me the path, and that was the first
recorded or documented incident anywhere in the modern times.
– Oh, wow. You’re kidding, yeah.
– To free the children, free the slaves like that. There was no organization
that time in the world, there was no individual. People thought that
slavery has been abolished a hundred years ago with the proclamation of, you know …
– I even thought that going into the film. I mean, because I was aware ahead of time, I knew that it was still existing, but prior to YouTube letting
me know about this film, I thought, well, aren’t we done with that? I knew that was an issue, but
how is that still happening? – Yeah, this is happening unfortunately in every part of the world. – Yeah, it is really unfortunate, and so, after that first incident
and freeing those girls, is that when you started, is it BBA? – Yeah, then after that, I felt that there is a
need of an organization, we can’t do it alone, and
then we helped set up this Bachpan Bachao Andolan, BBA. The literal meaning is Save
the Childhood Movement. So, I tried to build up that movement and people have shown interest in it, media has shown interest in it. There was a lot of opposition, and then, but the judiciary was very helpful because they understood the
gravity of the problem, and we started freeing children
with the help of the court. But unfortunately,
India did not have a law against child labor of its own. There were old British laws.
– They could rule on the cases but no …
– Yeah, no law, no proper law. So, it took us, me and my organization, five or six years for such a law, and in 1986, the federal law against
child labor has been adopted by the parliament. – Yay!
– So, that was the beginning. – It’s a step in the right direction. – Yeah, right direction. So, I always felt that there
was no single solution to the complex problem, and the problem, interconnectivity of the problems has to be understood
and analyzed properly. So, freeing children was one way of helping and feeling accomplished
and happy and empowered. – Yeah, you’re changing lives.
– That gives you joy, how it changes your life.
– Totally. – Every time you free a child, you feel that you are freeing yourself. (Kailash laughs)
– Yes, I could do … – Yeah, you can imagine, yeah.
– I can only imagine, yeah. – And what else could be better than this, to see that moment, and
you are the part of it. Then, laws, the policies, people’s participation,
very nice in the society, all these things were different steps and different strategies to attack this problem from all corners and solve it forever.
– Yeah. – So, I kept on learning
from my own experience. Many people will be surprised to know that until 1989, there was no international law for the protection of rights of children. The rights of children were not comprehensively articulated until that. Only in 1989, the United Nations adopted the Convention on
the Rights of the Child, which the US has not yet ratified, but 1989 is just yesterday, I would say.
– Yeah, it’s in my lifetime. – In the history of humankind.
– That’s wrong, yes. – So, for me, I believe that
these 40 years of my life are so rewarding and accomplishing, that the world has not achieved in four thousand years
or five thousand years what has been achieved in 40 years only for the protection of children. – Yeah.
– For the dignity, respect and wellbeing of children. That is very new. So, I won’t give this credit
to me definitely, definitely, and I’m not too humble,
that is a reality, but I put some spark or some ignition to enlighten some candles
here and there, and the light, and that has created a bigger
impact or a ripple impact. – Yeah, and I always tell my audience, ’cause I talk about mental
health on my channel, I think I always say bad
things grow in the dark, but if you shed light, that’s when …
– Of course. – You know, and so, it’s
like you’re shedding light on an issue that people for years have looked away or wanted to ignore, and that’s really
powerful, that, you know, it gets people like me inspired
and want to create change. And, so, I know we’re just
talking, like, child slavery. How many children are we talking about when you started the BBA? – When I started BBA, nobody has any idea about the magnitude of the problem, the number of them, and other things, because nobody was, yeah. So, estimates began later on because it was a non-issue that time. So, when we had been successful in bringing in political debate and the governments started
paying attention to it, then the people started estimating, or the government started estimating. And that time, the number was at least 60 million to a hundred
million, in India alone, 60 million, yeah.
– Geez Louise. – And, then, according to government data now, the number is 4.3 million. – Okay. – And the non-governmental statistics suggest that it could be between 20 to 30 million. So, from, say, 60 million to 20 million is progress, we have been able to do it, or if we believe in government data, definitely it is much more lesser, 4.3 million in India.
– Yeah. – But globally speaking, the number of child laborers was growing in the ’70s, ’80s, ’80s and ’90s. By the year 2000, the number
reached to 260 million, 260 million globally.
– Oh, my, oh, my God. – And that was such a
shocking thing because it was gradually rising up. Then we organized, because I believe in the
oneness of humankind. I cannot really understand.
– Me too. I believe in the good in people. – And I cannot really understand the borders, the visas, the passports. (laughing) Whatever, what is this? This is one earth for everyone. So, I thought that these
children were working in Pakistan or in Nepal, or my neighboring countries. They are my children and
I have to work for them despite all these political and diplomatic or immunity and so on, but I started working in those countries. Then I thought that let us
fight for an international law. There was no international law. I’m talking about two,
there’s different law. – Yeah, it’s the UN.
– One is the right, yeah, the UN Convention on the
Rights of the Child was adopted in 1989, but there was no law
against child slavery, child trafficking, child
prostitution until 1999. 1999, very recent.
– That is so crazy. – So, in 1998, I thought
that let us demand for a law. So, people laughed at me. Oh, Kailash, you are an ordinary person, you are not a prime minister,
not a president of a country, and you are suggesting
an international law. I said, the people’s voice, the ordinary people can make a difference. We experienced it in India,
let us experience it worldwide. So, we organized a march
across 103 countries. That has covered 80 thousand
kilometers distance. – Wow.
– And do you know what is 80 thousand kilometers? This is double the periphery of the earth. – You’re kidding, wow.
– Yeah. And there were three marches, one from Sao Paulo, one from Manila, and another one from Cape Town. All these marches merged in Geneva with this demand to United Nations, to International Labor Organization, that we need a law right now. And 15 million people
participated altogether in it, and most of them were
children and young people, and they shouted everywhere. And inside the UN Palace in Geneva, in front of ILO’s General Assembly, where all the governments
were present there, and they said that no
more tools in tiny hands. We want books, we want toys. No more child exploitation,
we children want education. And the voice of children
was not only loud and clear but it was so pure, it was so powerful, it cannot be ignored by any
politician on the earth. And within a week, a
resolution has been passed that we should make such
a law, and within a year, the following year, in 1999, the ILO Convention on the
Worst Forms of Child Labor has been unanimously adopted
by the international community. At that time, as I said,
the number of child laborers was 260 million.
– 260, yeah. – That has gone down to 150 million now, or to be precise, 152 million.
– Okay, yeah. – So, more than a hundred
million lesser number of children are working now in the world in the last less than 20 years, yeah.
– Less than 20 years, yeah. Wow, that’s amazing and
I think it’s important for people to understand how many children because that’s what I was surprised of, it was of the vast numbers.
– Yeah. – And I know that personally,
like the BBA has rescued how many children? – Almost 80 thousand now. – And is that, that’s local, right? – They’re local, they are in India alone. – Yeah, and people risk
their lives to go into these, ’cause the people are criminals. – These people are criminals,
the Mafia-like operations, and since they make money out of nothing, I mean, they go and steal
children, they pay a little money to the parents in some cases, and cheat them just to coerce them, and tell them that your
child will earn a fortune and lead a great life, and so on. – And that’s kind of the other component, is, like, the poverty. – The poverty is a component, but then these people who earn money, it’s all black business, the black money. They all elicit money.
– Yeah. – So, it has grown as 150 billion dollars annual income through human trafficking, and mostly children and
women are the victims. So, that is a global figure.
– Yeah. – We don’t know much about
India, the exact figure, but the global figure is
like the global estimate. Most people can’t imagine that surge and if so much money is being
generated out of it, and black money is generated,
that fuels further crimes and violence.
– Yeah, drugs. – And drugs, and everything, small arms, and so on.
– Yeah. – So, it was always risky, I
lost two of my colleagues. One was shot dead, one
was beaten to death. I have wounds and scars and
injuries on all of my body. My right shoulder is broken,
my left leg is broken, my backbone is broken. You can find scars on
all my head and forehead. So, this happened, but each time, each time they tried to kill me, I felt happier, I felt more powerful because I could see that these people are weakening, they are weakened. They feel a threat in
me and in my existence, or my organization’s existence, because they are frightened with us. So, if they are frightened, it means they are getting
weaker and weaker, and that’s why they wanted to kill me. Yeah, so they are scared
of me, why should I be scared of them?
– Be scared of them, yeah. And how has this affected,
’cause all of that, as a wife, I’m like, how
did your wife and children, how do they, how are they part
of this equation, I guess, because for me, I’m like,
I would be like, don’t go, it’s so scary, I don’t want
anything to happen to you? – That is opposite to me, if
I don’t go, they will kill me. (loud laughter) So, when we married, that was very clear, yah, that was very clear to her
that she’s not going to marry with an engineer for luxury, living with a good area …
– Yeah, you’re not going into an office every day to sit.
– No, no. She knew that he’s a crazy guy. (loud laughter) – She probably loved you more for it. – Yah. And, so, we collectively looked for some path, and she was the only one who trusted me because it’s a journey
we’d begin from ignorance, as we say.
– Yeah. – It begins from
ignorance about the issue, nobody was willing to listen
or pay attention to it. So, I kept on talking to people who said, he has become mad, what
he’s talking about, but I did not stop. Then, the second stage came when people started laughing at me. Oh, he’s mad, he gave up his career and doing all these kinds of things. The third thing came when
people paid more attention. Some people started supporting
and others started opposing, and that opposition went
violent over the time. They tried to defame me. Some false cases were
registered against me, the whole of my life I have
been facing false cases in the courts and so on.
– ‘Cause if people can’t stop you, they’ll try to tear you down.
– And character as an issue and all kinds of things that went on, but that was a part of life. I know that they are threatened with me, so that’s why they are doing all this, and it did not work, so
they physically attacked. Even the physical attacks
could not deter me. So, finally, I started winning. – Yeah, and the number keeps going down. – The number keeps going down and I’m quite confident
that I will celebrate the end of child slavery in my lifetime. – Yeah, me too. – Yeah, you will definitely.
(loud laughter) Yeah.
– So, moving forward then, like, what are your goals for this year and the next 10 years? Do you have any, like, shorter term goals? Obviously we’re working to end it as a whole.
– Yeah, yeah. So, it is now a global commitment under the Sustainable Development Goals and the Global Development Agenda to eradicate all forms
of child labor by 2015, oh, sorry, 2025, 2025. So, that is the slated down
goal which has been signed by all the governments of the world. So, not too many years. This is the global commitment, but I’m pushing this agenda faster. But I learned that if the real power lies
with some segment of society, they are children, they are youths, we cannot bring about sustainable peace, sustainable change in this society without the leadership of young people. It is not only making them follow us or asking them to be the
partners, they should lead. Young people should
sit in the driving seat because there are much talented people, but more importantly,
they have a strong element of enthusiasm, excitement, vigor, energy, and more importantly, idealism. They have an element of idealism which fades away over the years.
– Yes, if you let it. – Then you start
compromising on other things, and they are taught to compromise, to become more diplomatic in their talk. If they speak truth
sometimes, people call them, oh, you are so blunt,
and you are not obeying, you are not following, things like that. So, that was the
complacency in this society which is taught to them. But I have full trust in the youth, so I launched human history’s biggest ever campaign, what we call 100 Million for 100 Million. A hundred million young people
are victims of violence. That includes slavery,
trafficking, denial of education, the refuse crisis, the
children who are displaced due to global warming and
climate change, and so on. They are the worst victims. They are enslaved, they are
prostituted, they are sold and bought at a lesser price
than the animals, and so on, that is happening. On the other hand, the world has a wealth of three billion youth, and out of three billion young
people, hundreds of millions are ready to take up the challenges now. They are ready to do
something good for humanity. So, why can’t I knock on
their doors and their hearts and offer them a purpose, and a program, to be the changemakers, or
just to ignite the changemaker which is inside each one of them? So, I’m calling a hundred million young people to join this campaign. We have launched it
already in 31 countries and there was tremendous response. They are influencing policies, they are writing protest
letters to their governments and other countries as well because this is not confined to
their country’s issues, this is global issues.
– Yeah, it’s a global issue. – It’s a global issue. So, they can also do voluntary
work in their communities against bullying or sexual
abuse, or other kinds of things. They can help poor
people in their own way, collect some books, collect
some money and help people, poor people, poor children. So, they can do it in many ways, but that, the philosophical aspect is
much more deeper, what I call, this is my efforts to
globalize compassion. We have globalized everything, market, production, knowledge, technology. Good. So, they can be the changemakers
in their own locality by way of forming small
groups in their schools or neighborhoods to take up such issues, but also, they can join in
influencing global policies. For example, some governments
don’t have progressive laws for eradication of child
labor, and if laws are there, governments are not investing
enough in enforcement, or they don’t have that political will. Or many governments, or most governments in developing countries
don’t invest adequate money in educating their children and ensuring good quality education. So, youth from any part
of the world can sign up a letter, the demand
letter, which reaches out to the president of that
country or prime minister that cannot be ignored easily. Some governments are making
regressive laws of, you know, decreasing the marriageable
age of children from 18 to 16, or 16 to 14. In a number of countries,
there is no specific legal age of marriage of children. A 70-year-old man can marry a 10-year-old girl or a 12-year-old girl. So, that is still existing today. So, why not the youth should know about it in this part of the world, and in every country,
and be the changemaker. They can write letters to those countries that cannot be ignored by
the head of the states. So, also, youth are among the most vibrant and
the largest consumers. So, once they take up this
issue and start asking their brands and companies
that you have to assure, you have to certify that these products which
we are buying from you are not made by child laborers, then it cannot be simply ignored. – And how do we, because I’m, of course, watching the
film, I’m like, what can I do? I’m like, oh, my goodness, how do we stop, how do I take action? So, if we ask a company if
they are child labor free, how do they prove that to us? – They will prove it through engaging independent auditors.
– Okay. – They can appoint some monitors. They can also engage
the supply chain people in every tier, because the
production is not done by one group of people, it goes
down below in the villages or in the communities. So, if the brands are really genuinely willing to end it up, they
can put tremendous pressure, but they can also sensitive and engage and encourage their suppliers on the ground.
– Okay. – So, in both ways, they can work, but that should come from the consumers. The power lies in the hands of consumers, and the youth can be
very important in that. They can write letters. So, we have launched this
website called 100million.org, 100million.org.
– And I’ll link it in the description, you guys,
you can hop over there and check it out.
– Yeah. So, that is so people are signing up and they can get information about those brands which are using child labor. Once in a while they are
exposed and we will call them, just to protest it and demand
that they should clean it up, and also, they can demand
to the governments. So, it does not mean
that the campaign will remain confined to this age group. – No, but they have a voice.
– Up to the age of 25. Anybody can do it, and once
these children and youth will start doing it, their
parents are not sitting quiet, their parents will support them or parents will join them.
– Yeah. – So, this way, by engaging a
hundred million young people, we are engaging at least
four to five hundred million people in the world.
– Yeah, no, that’s great. And I think that’s something
that we can all do online. I think that’s the wonderful
thing about social media. I feel like if you were born later, you’d have a YouTube channel, like me. – Yeah, I know.
– ‘Cause it’s a great way to reach people and to share information. – Well, it’s not too late for me. I’m joining this way actually, I’m joining this way. (laughs)
– Yes. If you have a channel, well, we’ll link over too.
– And I’m so happy that YouTube For Business is going to launch this film. – Yes, me too.
– And that is very important. – Yeah, so, for you out there, I encourage you to watch the
film, it’s very powerful. I honestly watched it
without even realizing time was passing, it’s so engaging. It’s just inspirational, and you’ll cry a lot, so bring tissue. But the thing that we can
do and the thing I’d empower all of you to do is to start asking, asking brands if they
are child labor free, and use the #priceoffree
so we can track it. Go onto the website, like
he said, the 100million, I’ll link it in the description, go over. I encourage you to challenge
it because in the film alone, I learned of Ponds skincare
products being part of, they’re utilizing child slavery, I have purchased those
products in the past, HomeSense, Zara. So, it’s really important
that we use our dollars to buy items that do not come
from situations like that because it’s really heartbreaking, and if we can use our money to support what Kailash and the BBA and they all do, all of the great work they’re doing, that’s one way you can donate, and also, like I said,
checking out the links below and making sure that
the money you do spend is spent, like, to end child slavery and not to perpetuate it. And if you don’t have money
to give, you can volunteer. We all have time that we can give too. And so, those are some of the
ways that I would encourage all of you to reach out and to speak up, and to let people know because, like Kailash and I are saying,
your voice is important and it’s very powerful, and
we can all use it for good. – Thank you, thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to meet with me.
– Thank you so much. It’s my pleasure.
– Yes, I love what you do and it’s …
– My pleasure. – You guys know I’m a crier. I could still cry about it,
it was such a powerful film. So, please watch it and please tell everyone
you know about it. Thank you again, yeah.
– My pleasure. Once again, thank you so much. – Of course, thank you. – You have a very good heart and you are a strong voice. – Thank you, you too, and we’ll see you next time, you guys. Bye.